Loading lisp-stat into Franz, Inc. Allegro Common Lisp

[LEHunter]

(ql:quickload :lisp-stat) fails in Franz's Allegro Common Lisp 11.0 [64-bit macOS (Apple Silicon)]

Error message is: System "sb-cltl2" not found

Which makes sense, as that is an SBCL-specific system.

If I abort out of the sb-cltl2 load, it fails again with: "Dependency looping -- already tried to load sb-cltl2"

Once I get it loaded, I'm happy to run the tests in the ACL environment. I can probably fix most of the issues that come up...

Larry

[snunez1]

I don't think ACL is too far from working. Circa 2023 it was the primary dev environment. Would gratefully accept any patches that got ACL as a supported implementation.

I'm sure there's an equivalent cltl2 package in ACL, and the use is in a single function in data frame, so a very localised usage.

[LEHunter]

ACL has native cltl2 environments, see https://franz.com/support/documentation/environments.html#20-general-information-about-environments-in-allegro-cl Can you point me to the use so I can test it in ACL? Or maybe conditionalize the sb-cltl2 on SBCL and let me see what happens in ACL?

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On May 9, 2026, at 4:39 PM, Steve Nunez ***@***.***> wrote: snunez1 left a comment (Lisp-Stat/lisp-stat#45) <#45 (comment)> I don't think ACL is too far from working. Circa 2023 it was the primary dev environment. Would gratefully accept any patches that got ACL as a supported implementation. I'm sure there's an equivalent cltl2 package in ACL, and the use is in a single function in data frame, so a very localised usage. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#45 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AACWZKPIMYALZ4V2D524BXL4Z7TU7AVCNFSM6AAAAACYXVZYGSVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHM2DIMJUGI3DEMZRGE>. Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>. You are receiving this because you authored the thread.

[snunez1]

It's used in two places: the asdf system definition and print.lisp. It looks like print.lisp is already conditionalised on allegro and this may just be an import problem.

[LEHunter]

Hmm. Looks like the print.lisp example will work without it. Can’t tell from the ASDF which constituent file might have a dependency, but the symbols are all defined in ACL’s system: package, so it might just work. Can you conditionalize the dependency and let me see what happens?

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On May 9, 2026, at 4:53 PM, Steve Nunez ***@***.***> wrote: snunez1 left a comment (Lisp-Stat/lisp-stat#45) <#45 (comment)> It's used in two places: the asdf system definition <https://github.com/Lisp-Stat/data-frame/blob/a5cef84bb7e1db45a9ad825a70dad7702607a7b2/data-frame.asd#L26> and print.lisp <https://github.com/Lisp-Stat/data-frame/blob/a5cef84bb7e1db45a9ad825a70dad7702607a7b2/src/print.lisp#L129>. It looks like print.lisp is already conditionalised on allegro and this may just be an import problem. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#45 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AACWZKNGWJBVKNC4EO7DDUD4Z7VMNAVCNFSM6AAAAACYXVZYGSVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHM2DIMJUGI4DIMBXGE>. Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>. You are receiving this because you authored the thread.

[snunez1]

I'm not sure why it would be loading sb-cltl2 in the first place. The line in the data-frame system definition is:

#+sbcl "sb-cltl2")

What system exactly is trying to load sb-cltl2 ?

[LEHunter]

Looks like data-frame 

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